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Jordan Abruzzo –S/R – 6’2” 220 lbs – 13th rd ’07 – b. 8/2/24
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G |
AB |
H |
2B |
3B |
HR |
BB |
SO |
SB |
CS |
AVG |
OBP |
SLG |
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SSA |
49 |
182 |
50 |
9 |
0 |
7 |
8 |
27 |
0 |
0 |
.275 |
.309 |
.440 |
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A |
54 |
203 |
61 |
13 |
1 |
5 |
13 |
36 |
1 |
0 |
.300 |
.347 |
.448 |
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A+ |
19 |
66 |
20 |
4 |
0 |
2 |
2 |
7 |
1 |
0 |
.303 |
.333 |
.455 |
Abruzzo hit his way out of Savannah and into the middle of the St. Lucie batting order in the first two
months of 2008. So the Mets rewarded him by sending him down two levels from St. Lucie to Brooklyn on July12th. Abruzzo is a free-swinger with some pop from each side. The combination of his receiving abilities and modest power will keep him in baseball for the foreseeable future. He profiles as an org guy or, if he’s lucky, a backup catcher somewhere along the line.
Abruzzo will have a chance to improve his stock slightly in HWB this fall.
Likely 2009 Start: AA
Josh Thole – L/R – 6’2” 205 lbs – 13th rd ’05 – b. 10/28/86
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G |
AB |
H |
2B |
3B |
HR |
BB |
SO |
SB |
CS |
AVG |
OBP |
SLG |
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A+ |
111 |
347 |
104 |
25 |
2 |
5 |
56 |
45 |
2 |
1 |
.300 |
.382 |
.427 |
Josh Thole knows the difference between a strike and a ball. For the third time in four years as a professional, Josh Thole had more walks than strikeouts. In 2008, he started to convert those pitch capabilities
abilities into a nascent ability to drive the ball. His 25 doubles and five homers each exceeded his total from his first three seasons (23 and 2, respectively) and 591 professional Abs.
The left-handed hitting Thole actually had an OPS 11 points higher against left-handed pitchers than against righties.
So, that kind of production, from a catcher - good contact skills, with burgeoning pop - makes Thole a really good prospect right? Not so fast. Can he handle catcher? Thole led FSL catchers with a .994 fielding percentage, and was fifth in the league among qualified backstops (a short list) by throwing out 22.5% of baserunners. In less than 20 innings of observation, I did not focus enough on Thole’s defense behind the dish to have strong opinions on his capabilities. JJ Cooper at BA recently wrote of Thole, “there are few who liked his work at catcher.”
I’ll add here that there are questions about nearly all young catchers’ abilities behind the plate. A young shortstop or centerfielder can blow a scout away with speed, hands, and arm. Catchers by contrast can show the tools – arm, footwork, transfer – but at no other position on the diamond, is there as much to learn to become an MLB caliber defender. For example, catchers must learn to handle pitchers, read batters swings, read pitches, refine their blocking mechanics, refine their footwork, smooth out the transfer from glove to hand.
The Mets are challenging Thole by sending him to the Arizona Fall League. I look forward to reports on his progress, and specifically his defense from the desert. I might or might not make a trip to AZ myself.
Likely 2009 Start: AA




I’ve noticed a trend lately where the Mets draft or sign catchers, then have them play mostly 1B and DH for the first year, then move them back behind the play the next year or so. This cant be a productive way to learn to play C. Why do they do this?
Nate,
I’m not sure I see the same trend here.
Jesus Flores, Francisco Pena and Dock Doyle have never played another position besides catcher as a Met. Abruzzo has moved around.
Thole was primarily a first baseman in 2007 while playing just 11 games at catcher. That’s an individual player making a primary position switch, rather than an organizational trend and a bigger part of Thole’s individual narrative than I made it here. He played more games at 1B than at C in both 06 and 07 as well.
Is there some other player (or group of players) you are thinking about who I’m not?
Absolutely, it was not a one player comment.
Abruzzo is obviously one. Moved off C, then back.
Jason Jacobs played a lot of 1B/DH last year, this year he played more C i believe. This goes back to 2006 when they had about 6 ‘catchers’ on the Cyclones and didn’t let any of them catch enough.
Jose Jimenez (I think) was listed as a C on the Cyclones opening day roster, but never played there. (might have been Eric Campbell instead, I don’t remember exactly who it was) Might have been just an error on someone’s part.
Ted Dziuba, was on that ‘06 Cyclones team as well as Sean McCraw. Now McCraw’s role is a backup C, but he has played mostly DH for three years…
Wabick and Hambrice were catchers but they never caught. Now they play no positions…
Drew Butera fits the profile as well if you want to go back a few years.
Jacobs, Jimenez, Dziuba and McCraw simply weren’t prospects and thus the org. moved them around to fill out rosters.
Campbell was/is a 3B/LF, not a C.
For the real prospects, the org leaves them behind the plate.
Thole is 21 (and a YOUNG 21 at that). There’s no way you could expect him to be an MLB-caliber defensive catcher right now. Catchers have a longer learning curve and a much more lax standard of age-level correlation than other position players. The fact that his pitch recognition and plate discipline are apparently this good this fast is astounding.
Let’s face it– if he can post a .370 OBP and .400 SLG in the Major Leagues, he would need to play solid-average defense to be a serious threat. Let’s say he does well at AA next year and cracks the Majors in 2010 (which would still be unbelievable at 23). With Wright, Beltran, Reyes, Fernando Martinez (in an ideal scenario), Church, and a hard-hitting first baseman, Thole would be a huge threat out of the 7 spot. Just something to consider.
I also like Abruzzo as the Robinson Cancel type of guy. You don’t find switch-hitting catchers with pop on both sides growing on trees.