Comments on: Analysis of the 2009 Draft Bonuses

By: ihob419

ihob419 — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:13:11 +0000

I completely disagree with that assessment. The Mets receive less criticism than the Yankees and the Red Sox though beloved have a huge media and fan following that will rip them apart when need be. However, look at what these teams have done with their farm systems.

Yankees:

Almost the entire bullpen is made up of kids from their farm. The Mets had Parnell. The Yankees buy the best free agents out there almost every year, meaning they lose their early round picks just as the Mets did. Yet, they still produce quality talent through IFA’s and spending above slot on the draft. Which is why I hate this oh the Wilpon’s are friends with Bud Selig. I don’t give a rat’s ass that they are friends because it is killing the organizations depth and ability to develop talent that could’ve helped the major league team this year or in years to come.

Red Sox:

Look at what they have been able to do by building up a very formiddable farm system. The strong farm system helps them be in the hunt every year. They have drafted well and spent on IFA’s giving them the opportunity to trade farm pieces to get vital parts to their recent championships.

Hopefully the Mets use their protected 1st RD pick this year and get a viable piece to the puzzle in the Free Agent market (Holliday, Bay, Benji Molina, Lackey) and pick THE BEST player available regardless of what they want.

By: Obama_MetFan

Obama_MetFan — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 00:16:14 +0000

Im sorry Grendal but the records in minor leagues dont mean anything because the minors are for development if you win good but you cant jeopardyze the growth of the players , lets say you have to give an inning or 30 pitches to a reliever and you bring him in the 8th and he gets in trouble but he has made just 17 pitches you cant take him out and as result you lose the game , thats why i think that the record in the minors dont count , just my humble opinion !

By: Grendal

Grendal — Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:55:27 +0000

I can’t believe the stuff I read here. The Mets don’t spend on talent because they don’t want to spend the money. Period. It’s always about money. Nothing else matters.
The Mets didn’t invest in their minor league teams and they are awful. They have a few guys with some talent, but nothing compared to most other teams. Look at their minor league teams records.

By: mark4212

mark4212 — Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:41:50 +0000

blay that’s kind of the point. The Mets don’t need one at every position. But the fact that right now we only have 8-10 really GOOD prospects for a ball club who has the ability to spend so much money it’s a little ridiculous. The Mets were tied for the fewest number of picks in the top 10 rounds. They ended up tied for signing the fewest picks in the draft. Magnifico decided to go to college that’s FINE. But to not sign a guy over a few 100k is just a shame.

Onto the IFA’s. How many IFA’s did the mets sign this year. I’ve heard of ONE. I heard the yankees’s in on at least 5. They only got I believe 2. But they were going for as many as they can. That’s what we are touting. Go get as many as you can. Yes we know they are 16. Yes we know most are unproven commodities. But for 2 million you get these guys for what 5 years before they have to be called up? Longer?

You stock you system with as many guys as possible and the cream of the crop rises to the top. You shouldn’t have a AAA team full of nobody’s and never were’s. There could be a few in there, but it should be filled with able body Amateurs. The mets haven’t had that in years.

There are many reasons why they don’t. In the last 4 years they have traded away from my count anywhere from 12-15 players. That will hurt any farm system. They also have had guys get hurt like all other farm systems. But when your not restocking with 10-20 guys with high upside every year it’s tough to keep a good farm system.

The Yanks, Red Sox. Dodgers, Angels, Phillies are just a few off the the top of my head which have GOOD farm systems and a high MLB Payroll. The 2 don’t have to be mutually exclusive. The High MLB payroll can fill in Gaps and cover up mistakes, but eventually you will need both.

On-to Chapman. I’d love the mets to go after him. Word is it’s going to cost at least what Strausberg just signed. And Honestly i don’t see the mets making that kind of commitment.

By: Obama_MetFan

Obama_MetFan — Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:17:14 +0000

About this cuban defector (i think his name is Aroldis Chapman) do you really think he is legit ? what about you guys ?

By: Obama_MetFan

Obama_MetFan — Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:11:39 +0000

Mr, i agree with most of the things you have said but i think that the Mets dont like to spend in the draft and international signings because they know that they dont have time to rebuildings because of the media , fans and endorsements . Cmon big baby rip me for that comment !

By: Obama_MetFan

Obama_MetFan — Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:57:55 +0000

lol Mr you went off lol .

By: blay28

blay28 — Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:53:43 +0000

to me it seems like no matter what we did even if we signed all of our draft picks there would still be people complaining about somethin ….we def need to develop more young talent but i live in binghamton and although the record doesnt show it we have some really good lookin young guys here….its not often that a player just totally dominates in the minors and carries it every single year to the majors …most players make a name for themselves when they do get that chance and IMO atleast 1 of the players that are in BING right now will make a major impact on the NY mets at somepoint in the next few years…with the financial ability of our team we dont need to have a highly touted prospect at every position…Holt , Mejia , Ike Davis, Thole, Ruben Tejada all have a chance to be real good…and Merrit has a chance to be a very reliable lefty specialist ala pedro feliciano ….ive seen lots of players come up through the system like david wright and jose reyes and to be honest im just as excited if not more about these group of young guys as i was with those 2 …we just need to be patient and let our young guys develop and i think we’ll be callin our farm system one of the best in baseball….

lastly i reallllly hope the mets make a strong push for this cuban defector the lefty that throws really hard cuz that dude looks legit …having him join our system could make it improve into the upper echelon alone hes gotta chance to be a all star in the majors every year ….PLEASE Omar do the smart thing and get this guy!

By: Great Scott

Great Scott — Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:20:35 +0000

If the Mets had drafted Stassi and paid him 1.5 mil do you really think Matz would have signed for so little.
Toby if you have the time a chart showing 5th & 6th round picks from the last 10 years and how many actually have successful major league careers would be interesting.
Unless a player really does not want to go to college taking less than $ 500,000 to give up college is crazy.
Think about it $200,000 after taxes in not that much, compared to the value of college. When you realize most kids never make the majors.

By: big baby

big baby — Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:39:24 +0000

oh my goodness, are we really going to split hairs on saying omar, or omar and the front office he employs?

and considering omar was in fernando’s kitchen and knew him since he was a little boy, is it out of the question to somehow give omar credit.

the reason the mets didn’t spend on the draft has nothing to do with tim redding. the wilpons are buddy buddy with selig, and are on record as hating overslot/supporting the slot system. they do not let omar go overslot often. it has nothing to do with the money tim redding got, or cory sullivan, or alex cora.