Comments on: BA’s Top Ten List

By: Toby Hyde

Toby Hyde — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:24:19 +0000

Familia and Allen are really close for me actually. Familia has a little more power, but Allen has a better feel for a changeup. I couldn’t kill someone for ranking either one ahead of the other. And yes, my opinions are based on stats, things I’ve heard, and conversations with people in the game, both in and out of the Mets organization.

By: acerimusdux

acerimusdux — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 05:27:14 +0000

Obviously, when Manuel said Tejada was 21-30 he meant in the AA Eastern League. That shouldn’t make him a surprise at #9 in one system. Maybe a bit more a surprise though is that he was ahead of Thole in that league, but behind him here.

But, those AA lists are very deep. The #19 guy on that list, Zach McAllister, was recently voted the #5 guy in the Yankees system by community members at minorleagueball.com, and the 20th guy, Brandon Snyder was ranked 7th in a deep Orioles system. So it shouldn’t surprise to have a guy in the low 20s there rank 9th. Tejada was supposedly not very far behind those guys.

Maybe a bit surprising still that Nieuwenhuis was 13th in the FSL, and still didn’t make the Mets top 10, but the A+ level won’t be quite as deep as AA, and at any rate it does show the Mets have some pretty good depth there.

By: LoveOfTheGame

LoveOfTheGame — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 03:28:14 +0000

It’s sad that Familia was beat up in such a manner by Rubin through his single source. Young man had a wonderful season and for a single scout to downgrade that it’s truly unappealing as is Rubin for using that inaccurate info, just ask Omar.

Rubin talks with fork tongue. Neiuwenhuis doesn’t make it, yet he’s a 20/20 guy? Is our depth that deep in talent? Sure sounds like it.

Rubin comments on his own blog that he makes the lists and Baseball America approves them.

I see that NickM is plugging away at the three (3), Allen, Familia and Neiuwenhuis and the guy still doesn’t answer him with any validity as to why or why not. Oh that’s right, Allen’s also a righthander and Familia had a bad outing once.

Toby, what is it that separates Familia from Allen for you? Do you ever speak to the Mets staff or do you base this on your opinions/stats things you’ve seen/heard?

As I recall, you were able to see them last year live, but not this year, correct?

It’s a topic of discussion on many boards, Familia vs Allen, when it’s great the two are in the Mets system, but for you it’s seems to be Familia. Why? Many others say Allen. We all know that Urbina isn’t even in the same category at this point. Certainly he maybe in years to come, but for now he’s a future prospect, not a prospect.

By: NickM

NickM — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:55:47 +0000

I love he doesn’t answer that guy’s question on Allen… “Allen is also right handed.”

Thats nice, Adam. Did you know the sky was blue?

By: big baby

big baby — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:32:06 +0000

seriously, talk about dumb.

he “watched him closely” in “the one outing.”

what’s more likely: he had a bad day mechanically or that it’s an everyday occurrence. presumably, with a walk rate ~3, i’m going to assume that it was a bad day.

why do they have to generalize? he saw him once. any pitcher can have a day where their mechanics are out of whack. that’s why they have bad days.

By: LoveOfTheGame

LoveOfTheGame — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:01:30 +0000

Allen’s righthanded…haha. So are 90% of all Major League starters! Urbina I’ve read is only topping 86MPH right now so his assessment of sitting 88-89 is total crap!

By: sylvan

sylvan — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:54:44 +0000

That scout quoted on Familia sounds full of it to me.

He mentions that Familia walked 6 guys when he saw him…which Familia obviously doesn’t do every day, since he’s averaged 2.9 BB/9 over his career. I’ll admit I’m no scouting expert, but it seems crazy to watch a guy just once, on what may have been his worst start of the year, and diss him based on that sample.