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	<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Perrotto: Dye and Jenks for Martinez + by WC</title>
		<link>http://www.metsminorleagueblog.com/2008/12/03/perrotto-dye-and-jenks-for-martinez/#comment-2038</link>
		<dc:creator>WC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deal makes no sense for either side.  The Mets have options to fill closer and left field holes through high quality FA players that won't require draft compensation.  The Sox already have shed salary, don't really have an imperative to trade Jenks (unless they're concerned about his dwindling K-rate), and dealing Dye would leave them with one major league caliber outfielder.

If Jenks was going to set up for a free agent signing and Dye was basically a throw-in, maybe it'd make some sense from the Mets' POV to trade Fernando+, but there's no way that's a realistic scenario.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deal makes no sense for either side.  The Mets have options to fill closer and left field holes through high quality FA players that won&#8217;t require draft compensation.  The Sox already have shed salary, don&#8217;t really have an imperative to trade Jenks (unless they&#8217;re concerned about his dwindling K-rate), and dealing Dye would leave them with one major league caliber outfielder.</p>
<p>If Jenks was going to set up for a free agent signing and Dye was basically a throw-in, maybe it&#8217;d make some sense from the Mets&#8217; POV to trade Fernando+, but there&#8217;s no way that&#8217;s a realistic scenario.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Perrotto: Dye and Jenks for Martinez + by starz31</title>
		<link>http://www.metsminorleagueblog.com/2008/12/03/perrotto-dye-and-jenks-for-martinez/#comment-2037</link>
		<dc:creator>starz31</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don't know what to think of this one...Aren't the sox looking for a bat and pitcher for 2009 now that they didn't really get one in the Vazquez deal(emphasis on 2009).  I don't know if Fmart gives them that.  Like you said, what else could be in the package?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t know what to think of this one&#8230;Aren&#8217;t the sox looking for a bat and pitcher for 2009 now that they didn&#8217;t really get one in the Vazquez deal(emphasis on 2009).  I don&#8217;t know if Fmart gives them that.  Like you said, what else could be in the package?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Martinez In Depth by ihob419</title>
		<link>http://www.metsminorleagueblog.com/2008/12/03/martinez-in-depth/#comment-2036</link>
		<dc:creator>ihob419</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like what I see, lets continue to be patient with the kid, he's only 20 yrs. old. All because he's been plagued by injuries doesn't mean it'll remain a constant.  Let him mature in body and mind and we'll be loving what we'll see in CitiField in a couple years.  He's not going to come in and be the savior, let him grow like they did with Wright when he first came up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like what I see, lets continue to be patient with the kid, he&#8217;s only 20 yrs. old. All because he&#8217;s been plagued by injuries doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;ll remain a constant.  Let him mature in body and mind and we&#8217;ll be loving what we&#8217;ll see in CitiField in a couple years.  He&#8217;s not going to come in and be the savior, let him grow like they did with Wright when he first came up.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Good Wood News in Arbitration by ihob419</title>
		<link>http://www.metsminorleagueblog.com/2008/12/03/good-news-in-arbitration/#comment-2035</link>
		<dc:creator>ihob419</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm torn on this issue because I like the fact that Rodriguez is still young and has not had the same kind of injury problems Wood had.  If I'm not mistaken didn't Wood break down a bit at the end of the season.  Compare that to the last two seasons and we are repeating the same trend of counting on guys that just don't have it for the entire season and yet another year we have our hopes up only to be torn down in the final months.  I also feel as though we are not going to resign Ollie.  He does not have the right mindset and reliability to play in New York.  So unless he signs with a team that finished in the last 15 we are going to get those two draft picks back we lose with Rodriguez.

Other than that, I like Wood's stuff, mentality and the chance to get him at a lower overall cost ($ &#38; Picks).  He's been through a lot in a very tough city as well and never really makes a stink about it.  He goes about his business as a true professional.  Rodriguez has been in slight decline over the past few years.  Granted a change of scenery to the lesser offensive National League with players unfamiliar with his stuff would probably benefit him.

Fuentes, in my opinion, is the only an option if the other two decide to go else where.

I don't want to think about trading away more minor league talent in order to get a closer.  If they are already establishing themselves as prospects then they've done more than most Met top draft picks have done.  The only way we'll be able to re-ignite this team with youth is through our own farm.  The more viable major league options we develop in the minors means more money that can be spent on free agents.  Remember last year Brian Schneider made about the same amount of money as Reyes or Wright did.

Granted if the topic of trading away minor leaguers comes up about getting a stud then I'm all for it.  Not Putz or Street who have had elbow problems in the past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m torn on this issue because I like the fact that Rodriguez is still young and has not had the same kind of injury problems Wood had.  If I&#8217;m not mistaken didn&#8217;t Wood break down a bit at the end of the season.  Compare that to the last two seasons and we are repeating the same trend of counting on guys that just don&#8217;t have it for the entire season and yet another year we have our hopes up only to be torn down in the final months.  I also feel as though we are not going to resign Ollie.  He does not have the right mindset and reliability to play in New York.  So unless he signs with a team that finished in the last 15 we are going to get those two draft picks back we lose with Rodriguez.</p>
<p>Other than that, I like Wood&#8217;s stuff, mentality and the chance to get him at a lower overall cost ($ &amp; Picks).  He&#8217;s been through a lot in a very tough city as well and never really makes a stink about it.  He goes about his business as a true professional.  Rodriguez has been in slight decline over the past few years.  Granted a change of scenery to the lesser offensive National League with players unfamiliar with his stuff would probably benefit him.</p>
<p>Fuentes, in my opinion, is the only an option if the other two decide to go else where.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to think about trading away more minor league talent in order to get a closer.  If they are already establishing themselves as prospects then they&#8217;ve done more than most Met top draft picks have done.  The only way we&#8217;ll be able to re-ignite this team with youth is through our own farm.  The more viable major league options we develop in the minors means more money that can be spent on free agents.  Remember last year Brian Schneider made about the same amount of money as Reyes or Wright did.</p>
<p>Granted if the topic of trading away minor leaguers comes up about getting a stud then I&#8217;m all for it.  Not Putz or Street who have had elbow problems in the past.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Martinez In Depth by TheBigStapler</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheBigStapler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let's all hope this is a real breakout for Martinez and not just a hot streak.

How is he doing defensively?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s all hope this is a real breakout for Martinez and not just a hot streak.</p>
<p>How is he doing defensively?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pedro was Overpaid by starz31</title>
		<link>http://www.metsminorleagueblog.com/2008/12/02/pedro-was-overpaid/#comment-2033</link>
		<dc:creator>starz31</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But do you really believe we overpaid...We had to to sign him.  But our real returns were in our new approach to then FA Beltran, the new shift in fan momentum (which I'm sure returned some nice $$), but more importantly Pedro gave us a huge edge in our latin signees.  Fmart himself, said Pedro was big influence at the time of his signing, which was just a few months after we inked Pedro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But do you really believe we overpaid&#8230;We had to to sign him.  But our real returns were in our new approach to then FA Beltran, the new shift in fan momentum (which I&#8217;m sure returned some nice $$), but more importantly Pedro gave us a huge edge in our latin signees.  Fmart himself, said Pedro was big influence at the time of his signing, which was just a few months after we inked Pedro.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Good Wood News in Arbitration by mrmustseetv</title>
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		<dc:creator>mrmustseetv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toby,

In my opinion, the rankings should be Rodriguez, Wood and Fuentes.

1.  I think Rodriguez is the best closer on the market.  He's proven he can close in a big market (or, at least, semi-big market as Anaheim is not Los Angeles).

2.  I am not sold on Fuentes as all.  I think that if the Mets sign Fuentes they will regret it by July.  The man lost his closer's job twice in two years.

3.  Wood is a health risk, but let's say you can get him on a two-year deal then the choice might be a toss up between K-Rod and Wood.

4.  I really don't think the value of the 1st round pick matters because the Mets always go for players that sign at slot value and the Mets are slated to pick near the bottom of the 1st round.  That said, the value of the 1st pick would not matter if the Mets gave up draft picks if they just WENT ABOVE SLOT!  This way they could give up a 1st and 2nd round pick and still find a way to get a player of similar talent in the 3rd and 4th rounds that may have slipped (like this year's Tim Melville).

http://nybornnybred.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toby,</p>
<p>In my opinion, the rankings should be Rodriguez, Wood and Fuentes.</p>
<p>1.  I think Rodriguez is the best closer on the market.  He&#8217;s proven he can close in a big market (or, at least, semi-big market as Anaheim is not Los Angeles).</p>
<p>2.  I am not sold on Fuentes as all.  I think that if the Mets sign Fuentes they will regret it by July.  The man lost his closer&#8217;s job twice in two years.</p>
<p>3.  Wood is a health risk, but let&#8217;s say you can get him on a two-year deal then the choice might be a toss up between K-Rod and Wood.</p>
<p>4.  I really don&#8217;t think the value of the 1st round pick matters because the Mets always go for players that sign at slot value and the Mets are slated to pick near the bottom of the 1st round.  That said, the value of the 1st pick would not matter if the Mets gave up draft picks if they just WENT ABOVE SLOT!  This way they could give up a 1st and 2nd round pick and still find a way to get a player of similar talent in the 3rd and 4th rounds that may have slipped (like this year&#8217;s Tim Melville).</p>
<p><a href="http://nybornnybred.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://nybornnybred.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Martinez #32 in MiLB.com Top 50 by kingrw</title>
		<link>http://www.metsminorleagueblog.com/2008/12/03/martinez-32-in-milbcom-top-50/#comment-2031</link>
		<dc:creator>kingrw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>toby thanks for the post. i was wondering where fernando would place on that list.

looks like he is going to be the only met prospect in the top 50, right? 

that's a pretty sobering commentary on the state of the mets farm.

on fernando i think the thing to hang the hat on is that sweet swing.  he had some ABs in spring training that made him look like a 10 year vet. Ralph Kiner in the booth was extremely impressed, and that guy had seen it all.

he is so fluid to the ball that kind of movement cannot be taught.

everything else will come together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>toby thanks for the post. i was wondering where fernando would place on that list.</p>
<p>looks like he is going to be the only met prospect in the top 50, right? </p>
<p>that&#8217;s a pretty sobering commentary on the state of the mets farm.</p>
<p>on fernando i think the thing to hang the hat on is that sweet swing.  he had some ABs in spring training that made him look like a 10 year vet. Ralph Kiner in the booth was extremely impressed, and that guy had seen it all.</p>
<p>he is so fluid to the ball that kind of movement cannot be taught.</p>
<p>everything else will come together.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Good Wood News in Arbitration by mark4212</title>
		<link>http://www.metsminorleagueblog.com/2008/12/03/good-news-in-arbitration/#comment-2030</link>
		<dc:creator>mark4212</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toby I'm right there with you on Wood over Fuentez.

1. He's younger.
2. He's more talented
3. He K's way more
4. He wasn't removed twice from being the closer in stretch runs because he was ineffective.

I would much rather sign Wood then Fuentes in the first place, and now not losing any draft picks makes it even sweeter. Depending on the Price that K-Rod signs for, I might think Wood over him as well. But if it's a 2 or 3 million dollar a deal difference i'd rather Rodriguez. If it's a difference of 5 million a year. I might lean towards Wood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toby I&#8217;m right there with you on Wood over Fuentez.</p>
<p>1. He&#8217;s younger.<br />
2. He&#8217;s more talented<br />
3. He K&#8217;s way more<br />
4. He wasn&#8217;t removed twice from being the closer in stretch runs because he was ineffective.</p>
<p>I would much rather sign Wood then Fuentes in the first place, and now not losing any draft picks makes it even sweeter. Depending on the Price that K-Rod signs for, I might think Wood over him as well. But if it&#8217;s a 2 or 3 million dollar a deal difference i&#8217;d rather Rodriguez. If it&#8217;s a difference of 5 million a year. I might lean towards Wood.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Another Rule 5 Preview by Meddler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meddler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've been pimping Morlan for a while now without even realizing he was Rule V eligible, I simply thought he'd be a nice secondary piece if the Mets wound up acquiring Edwin Jackson or Andy Sonnanstine.  

BTW Toby, any info on Carlos Avellones?  All I can seem to dig up is that he's 17, RHP, can touch 90 mph, Venezuelan, and signed with the Mets recently.  I figure if anyone could dig up a scouting report, it'd be you, but even a dollar amount would be nice just as some sort of indication as to whether there was any competition.  I'd even just take height and weight really.  Something to indicate whether this is just another "teenage lottery ticket" as a poster on another board put it, or someone to keep an eye on in rookie ball next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been pimping Morlan for a while now without even realizing he was Rule V eligible, I simply thought he&#8217;d be a nice secondary piece if the Mets wound up acquiring Edwin Jackson or Andy Sonnanstine.  </p>
<p>BTW Toby, any info on Carlos Avellones?  All I can seem to dig up is that he&#8217;s 17, RHP, can touch 90 mph, Venezuelan, and signed with the Mets recently.  I figure if anyone could dig up a scouting report, it&#8217;d be you, but even a dollar amount would be nice just as some sort of indication as to whether there was any competition.  I&#8217;d even just take height and weight really.  Something to indicate whether this is just another &#8220;teenage lottery ticket&#8221; as a poster on another board put it, or someone to keep an eye on in rookie ball next year.</p>
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